Posts by Lost in the fog

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What Does A Examination The Classic Response By The Watchtower's Responce To The News Media About Child Abuse Cover Ups : "They Abhor It" ?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i think to the world in general it is fucking stupid but what about the every day jw?

is that all that they can say and is this type of public statement commonly known to the r&f?

their statement they abhor it.

Lost in the fog

If I try to flag up anything in the news about JWs and child abuse, my friends and family throw back that WT quote. To the ordinary witness it means that such things can not happen inside a "spiritual paradise".

To which I say well why do elders serve on judicial committees dealing with all sorts of "perceived sins"? Because sometimes these things happen.

But they reply back that only apostates would take the society to court because they don't care about bringing reproach upon Jehovah’s name.

In other words, you can't win with this brainwashed attitude. The Society is right, me and everyone else is wrong.

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Those awkward magazines

by Addison0998 in

i’m sure we all remember those really weird, awkward magazines we were expected to place in service.

and it was before we are had the website or the thing on the back to fall back on.

imagine being a 12 year old girl, and having to place magazines on god’s view of pornography, sex, homosexuality.

Lost in the fog

I often wondered what householders thought back in the day when they bought the magazines and in the case of the Watchtower came across two weeks study articles inside on disfellowshipping because of porneia or the like.

Worse is the mindset of the average witness that these people who opened the door half asleep on a Saturday morning and who said "no" to your Awake! on Pornography would die at Armageddon because (quote) they had rejected their only opportunity to hear the message of God's Kingdom!

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Possible leak from Annual Meeting 2018

by Listener in

i'm a member on jw talk (until now at least) and have been regularly checking up on their thread regarding the annual meeting.

there hasn't been a great deal to report on except for this recent post that has been made.

i may get outed but that's no loss.

Lost in the fog

As far as I know no other religion or religious group gives any thought to the obscure writings of a long dead old testament prophet. Only the WTS who have produced reams of speculative articles down through the years. Why? To tie up the rank and file so that they think their understanding makes them the only true religion on the planet, and diverts their attention away from helping out people in a real sense like genuine Christians are called upon to do. Interpretation of obscure passages is all guesswork at best but doing it makes the F&DS look special in the eyes of the average JW.

Yawn. We've seen it all before.

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New Ezekiel Book Clarification

by johnamos in

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/pure-worship/summary-of-clarifications/.

is christendom the antitype of ancient apostate jerusalem?.

previous understanding: unfaithful jerusalem is a prophetic type of christendom.

Lost in the fog

I never could understand the logic behind the comparisons to Jerusalem and Christendom.

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Kingdom Hall Closures In Canada.

by Lost in the fog in

one of our friends in canada posted the following message to their circle of friends.

"in our meeting last night, the coordinator read a letter from the canadian branch about the reorganized territories.

all the territories in the fraser valley from hope to vancouver, about a hundred miles in all, have been reorganized to create larger congregations and improve the use of kingdom halls.

Lost in the fog

One of our friends in Canada posted the following message to their circle of friends. So what do you think of it?

"In our meeting last night, the Coordinator read a letter from the Canadian Branch about the reorganized territories. All the territories in the Fraser Valley from Hope to Vancouver, about a hundred miles in all, have been reorganized to create larger congregations and improve the use of Kingdom Halls.

Some congregations have been deleted, others changed and re-named. It'll be a heartwrenching move for many of the brothers but we will all do it. Changes are effective from November 3, 2018. There is always a good reason for these changes since Jehovah God is making the decisions!"

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When is a church not a church?

by Lost in the fog in

the watchtower and jehovah's witnesses go out of their way to insist that they are not a church like the false ones of christendom.

so why don't they file an irs tax return?

because, according to guidestar they are exempt, since they are a church.

Lost in the fog

The Watchtower and jehovah's witnesses go out of their way to insist that they are not a church like the false ones of Christendom.

So why don't they file an IRS tax return?

Because, according to guidestar they are exempt, since they are a church.

https://www.guidestar.org/profile/11-1857820

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WT real estate.

by Lost in the fog in

watchtower society continues to hold real estate valued in $millions.

and avoids paying taxes on it because of its religious status.

http://www.recordonline.com/news/20180924/town-of-newburgh-agrees-to-refund-some-taxes-on-2-watchtower-sites .

Lost in the fog

Watchtower Society continues to hold real estate valued in $millions. And avoids paying taxes on it because of its religious status.

http://www.recordonline.com/news/20180924/town-of-newburgh-agrees-to-refund-some-taxes-on-2-watchtower-sites

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Star Tribune: Jehovah's Witnesses accused of mishandling abuse in Montana

by Tahoe in

http://www.startribune.com/jehovah-s-witnesses-accused-of-mishandling-abuse-in-montana/493779331/.

helena, mont.

— two women who say they were sexually abused as children have alleged that the jehovah's witnesses failed to report their abuser to authorities in montana and instead punished him internally by expelling him from the congregation until he repented the following year.. a trial begins monday in the tiny city of thompson falls for one of dozens of lawsuits filed nationwide in the last decade over claims of child sexual abuse in jehovah's witness congregations.

Lost in the fog

Who are the jw lawyers? Are they an outside firm that the society uses, or are they trained by the organisation? I mean that they'd have to have gone to a university to get a law degree so they are unlikely to be born in JWs. Just being curious, if any of you would know.

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You will not find this sort of support in the New System: JC Elder

by Diogenesister in

so that statement was made by an elder to a disfellowshipped brother, during a reinstatement meeting.. this statement is made here at around 4.

10 mins in.. the full story of this man is incredibly sad.

in fact i've rarely listened to an exjws story that has affected me quite so much.

Lost in the fog

Pity help Noah in the resurrection. We know from the Bible that he overdid the booze on one occasion - probably trying to self-medicate his PTSD if you ask me

But the New World elders will have him out. And they call it paradise!!

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DECEMBER 2018 WATCHTOWER STUDY ARTICLE...Many loyal Christians have remained with an unbelieving mate under very trying circumstances.

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

december 2018 study article :.

honor “what god has yoked together”.

17 admittedly, there have been instances where an “unbelieving husband” seems to prove that he is not “agreeable to staying with her.” he might be extremely physically abusive, even to the point that she feels that her health or life is in danger.

Lost in the fog

I remember when I was an elder being involved with a domestic situation where the two people had split up.

The only guidance we could find was a study article in a 1988 WT. (Can't remember the exact issue but it had a drawing of trench warfare on the front cover).

The above quotation sounds as if it has been lifted from the earlier WT, at least it sounds like a similar echo to me. I can't say for sure because I don't read the Watchtower magazines any longer.